Mac or PC?

[Mr Blackstock]

I am happy my 486 switches on!

So easy to please......whats DVD?

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[miker]

Digital Venereal Disease

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[Davis]

"we havn't had 10 versions of our software we now have 2 though you see the Mac OS evolves (its organic)."

So, you honestly think Mac OS X is named X because X sounds cool? Jesus.

As for you insulting my Photoshop skills, again, what a joke, man. How does that have anything to do with anything? We're talking about what's a better box, and you said Adobe products are made for Apple first neener neener neener. So I said well who cares because I run Adobe products and they work just as well on my computer. And you have nothing worthwhile to say so you insult my Photoshop skill. The best part is I don't think anyone is taking you seriously and that makes me feel good to know. Maybe if I made a website about films I've made then it would be nice and easy to watch films I've made, but I'm afraid the website you found was a personal journal, and I think it's laughable you tried to use that as a reason to prove why Macs were somehow better machines, which is all I can assume you were trying to do since that's what the arguement was supposed to be about. But, maybe you just degenerate to random insults when you're confronted.

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[machead]

QUOTE;
'So I said well who cares because I run Adobe products and they work just as well on my computer'
I agree with this statement unfortunately you didn't say that in your origional post you said 'I'm running After Effects, Premiere 5 and Photoshop 6 off this PC, and I'm getting just as good of RESULTS as you are.'
by definition RESULTS mean your end product and seeming as we are talking about a creative product which can only be judged with a subject opinion( you can't use anything tangeable to compare work only opinion).
I would also like to say this is my opinion only and other people may believe you produce better results than me,so why is my opinion upsetting you so much?try not to be so sensitive.


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MACHEAD
http://www.macosrumors.com/

[Venkman]

*sigh* another OS war.. I'm so tired from the ones I've been in on in the past, but one more wouldn't hurt.

A computer is a computer. It is number cruncher that is given a set of instructions to do. An OS is an OS. It may handle things differently than the other, but the purpose of it is the same. What it all really comes down to is preference, knowledge, and compatibility.
If you wanted a computer for going to college, I would suggest a PC because, well, look in your university?s computer lab, what do you see? My ex-girlfriend got a Mac and it was a pain in the ass for her to convert a document from Apple Works to Word. She sent me a .doc letter and this is all that I got

@#@$#%^%$$%^$GIE##$%@%$%#Hello Honey$%&^&%^&^&&TT$THF

It?s such a pain in the ass that I see kids on ebay selling off their new iMacs. There?s your compatibility issue.

Now for filming and editing, it doesn?t matter what you have. Mac or PC, they will do what they are told. Now, if you buy a Mac loaded with all of the Adobe products and I get a Dell PC with all of the Adobe products on it, which computer is better?

Now, machead will tell you that it?s the Mac because, well?..that?s what he uses and Davis will tell you the Dell PC because that is what he uses.

Right there, someone?s preference, but what is the answer..PC or Mac? The answer?Doesn?t matter.
It?s the user. As long as you know what you?re doing and you have all the right connections to your box, it doesn?t really matter. Just because someone on a Mac makes a Sundance winning film, doesn?t mean the Mac is a better computer. It?s probably because the PC user didn?t know enough about the Adobe products he was using to do anything good with it and use the software to its full potential?could be vise versa too. I?ve seen stuff done on a PC that looked better than what someone has done on a Mac and I have also seen something done on a Mac that looked better than something done on the PC. It?s all because that person knows what they are doing. It?s not the OS designing your shiz, you are. The computer is aiding you.

What do I suggest you buy?

A PC

Why?

Well, that's what I perfer. You can sit there and make your films and save them as a .mov file to distibute them on the web. If you want to save them to disc, well, you have to buy a burner of some sort. You can install an internal on a PC...where are you going to stick it on a iMac? You have to get an external one for that and it's more expensive. If you're out of room on your box to install an internal one, then you are stuck getting a more expensive, external one.

Really, what do you like to work with nate_dog? A PC or a Mac?


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[machead]

Oh god here we go again.
A valid point you made about compatability but I suggest you recomend some software to your friend called 'Maclink plus delux'with this software I can open up any PC file exept .exe files .I have found myself in the past being e-mailed files from PC users who can't open a file I open it in Apple works via Maclink plus dulux' then E-mail it back to them in a file format which they can open up on their PC's.
I recon that I can open up more different type's of files than the average PC user(this is of course my opinion and I could be wrong though)
there are alot of myths about Mac's and all I wish to do is dispell them I get irritated by ignorant statements!!!!!

I would also like to get staight from the start that during this post all I have done recomend the Mac on my own experiences and other's experiences of this platform with respect to video editing,unfortunately ignorant and detrimental comments have been made which I have felt needed addressing, I havn't critised the PC platform for having 2 buttons on its mouse,in fact during this post I have no critisms of the PC platform.



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MACHEAD
http://www.macosrumors.com/

[machead]

Oh god here we go again.
A valid point you made about compatability but I suggest you recomend some software to your friend called 'Maclink plus delux'with this software I can open up any PC file exept .exe files .I have found myself in the past being e-mailed files from PC users who can't open a file I open it in Apple works via Maclink plus dulux' then E-mail it back to them in a file format which they can open up on their PC's.
I recon that I can open up more different type's of files than the average PC user(this is of course my opinion and I could be wrong though)
there are alot of myths about Mac's and all I wish to do is dispell them I get irritated by ignorant statements!!!!!

I would also like to get staight from the start that during this post all I have done recomend the Mac on my own experiences and other's experiences of this platform with respect to video editing,unfortunately ignorant and detrimental comments have been made which I have felt needed addressing, I havn't critised the PC platform for having 2 buttons on its mouse,in fact during this post I have no critisms of the PC platform.



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MACHEAD
http://www.macosrumors.com/

[Davis]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, helvetica, sans serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by machead:
by definition RESULTS mean your end product and seeming as we are talking about a creative product which can only be judged with a subject opinion( you can't use anything tangeable to compare work only opinion).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's where you're wrong. We could get someone to e-mail us the exact same two video clips, open them both in Premiere, put them in the same spot on the time line, put the same transition in between them, and both hit enter at the same time, and time how long it takes the computer to process the render.

That's been my whole point all along. Venkman's statements tend to go along with what I feel you've been saying, "The better user will get better results." That is 100% true, and I will be the first to admit that if you're better then me, you'll get better stuff, but when someone asks if he should by a Mac or a PC, just because you're good at filmmaking doesn't make the Mac better. The computer that can compile the render faster is the better computer.

In my opinion.

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[machead]

the computer that recognises a camcorder that is attached allowing you to log and capture is better,lets face it if you can't log and capture you can't edit so can;t render thats what this topic is about.now piss off and get a life you irratate me(when I've had a drink or 2 I don't suffer fools gladly)maybe when I'm sober I will opolagise for these comments on the other hand if under a sober state I come to the conclusion your a dickhead and cant see anything cause your testicles obscure your vision I'll say nothing
THIS TOPIC IS OFFICIALLY DEAD

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MACHEAD
http://www.macosrumors.com/

[Davis]

No apology needed, I could just go take a couple shots and rant back but I think we all know the effects of liquid courage. Plus, we've been no more civil to each other sober, so, don't worry about it.

As far as the topic being dead, um, do you think PCs don't have firewire cards? Or, maybe you're referring to iMovie coming standard and Mac OS X has built in camera recognition support (I don't know if it does, but I'm betting so, since they all come standard with firewire, right?). Well, Windows XP automatically recognised both the memory stick function of my camera for the .jpg and .mpg digital camera funtions, and the logging funtion through the firewire, both plug and play, and XP comes with Windows Movie Maker, so, again, that's not a reason why Mac is better that it can recognise and capture. Mine can too. Standard, stock, off the shelf, and no extra software needed.

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